I just got the 2010 Mazdaspeed3 off the dyno after doing some installs and have some results to share.
The Dyno run went great for the 2010 MS3. It’s bone stock with three mods – CorkSport Power Series Racepipe (80mm with factory 65mm outlet) and CS Power Series Intake w/ Turbo Inlet and a set of CorkSport Motor Mount Inserts. Each of these products will be released shortly for the 2010 MS3 including some revised design considerations for the new 2010.
The stock baseline numbers for the 2010 were 231hp 269tq (73.8F/45%Humidity). With the two mods, it hammered down 272hp and 301tq (78.7F/43%Humidity).
41hp gain, 32ft lb of torque. Boost went from factory 16.4psi to 18.6! Can’t wait to see what it picks up with the downpipe.
If you have a Mazdaspeed3 without any exhaust modifications or haven’t added an intake or a turbo inlet pipe, hit me up…there’s power on the table right in front of you.
CorkSport is proud to announce that we are expanding our Cold Air Induction Box product line to include an Air Box for the COBB SF Intake system as well as our current development of cold air boxes for the 2010-2013 Mazdaspeed3 and 2010 Mazda3.
In our testing of this product we wanted to define:
Where do the cold and hot air fronts exist in the engine compartment, and what differential can be expected between these areas?
High and low-pressure areas exist, which direct requirements for sealing off areas to ensure the coldest air temperatures are entered into the filter.
To achieve these results, we determined that extensive pressure drop testing under dynamic conditions was not possible while delivering a box that retails under $100. A well-planned design of experiment which measured temperatures in the engine compartment, airbox, and surrounding areas would give us not only the hard numbers we needed to show results but also some intuition as to where the various pressure zones exist and how that affects the movement of hot and cold air in the vicinity of the filter. What we found is that the various pressure zones in the engine compartment can create barriers preventing the intake from drawing hot air.
Our testing utilized a MSD DashHawk OBD2 Datalogging system and an Innovate TC-4 Four Channel Thermocouple Logger to measure Inlet Air Temperatures, Boost Air Temperatures, Ambient Air Temperature and two channels of thermocouple inside the box and directly outside the box in the hot engine compartment. The ambient air temperature on this day was about 64F. Earlier in the day we tested the short ram intake without our box and found intake air temps were 2-8 degrees lower than the engine compartment temperature.
Testing these variables on our cold air box design, we saw a huge benefit – over 30 degree difference between the engine compartment and the interior of the box. By the time of this testing, the engine compartment had a chance to heat soak, and the hot air in the engine compartment was 10-15 degrees higher. Despite this increase in temperature, our average temperature differential was now in the 25-28 degree range, and inlet air temperatures were down 8-12 degrees dependent on the volume of airflow past the sensor – obviously, in traffic, you’re going to get some level of heat soak in the inlet system, MAF Housing, etc. – but that cools off quickly when 64-degree ambient air temperatures blast past at the rate of an office cubicle of volume per minute.
Some may ask, why is your box not enclosed or better sealed within the engine compartment? In the course of our testing seal-off surfaces, we found areas – such as the gap under the box – that are either a source of cool air or have a pressure effect that prevents hot air from entering them. Some of these, such as the seams on the box, were beneficial to seal off, some provide relatively cool air, but others were completely inconclusive. The bottom line is that there are a number of areas that may appear to allow hot air into the box, but testing proved otherwise.
The end result is a series of boxes that use an overhanging lid with a seal strip along the mating surface, a silicone seal at the filter port, and contoured front edges that align with the headlight assembly. These systems promote filter temperatures roughly equivalent to ambient air temperature, and 8-12 degree inlet air temperature drops compared to similar intake systems without the box. Note: As we did not test at all possible outside air temperatures, extremely hot or extreminely cold ambient temperatures may show some variation from these results, but the effects should be minimal.
If you have any questions, suggestions for further tests about the CorkSport Power Series Intake System or CorkSport Cold Air Induction Systems, feel free to post comments to this blog so we may update the details and content.
I had the opportunity to head out to the MazdasNW Wednesday Night meet at Jasmine Grill in Federal Way, WA last Wednesday and I really had a great time. Roughly 70 enthusiasts turned out with 48 Mazdas and a handful of other cars.
Organized by MazdasNW, a forum for Northwest Mazda Owners and Enthusiasts, the weeknight meets appear to be just the tip of the iceberg as meets go for this group of enthusiasts of a really wide demographic.
It was great to be out among Mazda enthusiasts and like-minded gearheads. The best part was seeing a lot of the custom work people had put into their cars – from custom-fabricated dash pods to harness bars. Bringing along the CorkSport 2010 Mazdaspeed3 had some surprising results – mixed opinions abound whenever discussing the 2010 – but one thing was certain, the new Mazdaspeed3 gets attention wherever it goes.
Here are a few photos from the meet. If you’re in the Pacific Northwest, take a look at MazdasN and head out to one of the next meets. The meets are on the second Wednesday of every month, even numbered months at the Southcenter Mall in Tukwilla and odd numbered months at the Northgate Mall in North Seattle. Hope to see you in North Seattle on the 9th of September – go to www.MazdasNW.com for more info.
I was mentioning my impending transmission swap after I had destroyed the B6T AWD transmission, there where a few more bugs with the transmission swap and I worked them out over the next couple of weeks. The first time I took the 323 around a corner at high speed the car tried to trade ends. A quick counter steer and full throttle put the car into a very manageable slide. This is the way the car should have been delivered I remember thinking as I straightened the car out before the next corner. The 90-94 AWD transmission was setup to put more of the percentage of power to the rear wheels vs. the fronts.
I picked up some second hand Silverstone rally tires from the Tabor Rally Team to mount on an extra set of rims and try my luck at rally cross. The one thing you don’t expect to hear on an AWD car is “I didn’t have enough grip”. The combination of a small turbo which made instant boost which translates into instant torque and a 2600lb car made for lots of wheel spin even with rally tires.
As you can see in the picture above, the results were great! I think I exported about 60 lbs of dirt from the Hillsboro fairgrounds back home to Vancouver, WA after that event. It took forever to get the dirt and grass off the bottom of the car. I didn’t exactly set any record times driving that way but after a season of racing it was good enough for 3rd place in open class with the Oregon Rally Group.
There was another rally cross event which sticks with me due to the strange nature of the event. I showed up to the event with some shaved Toyo T1S tires on the 323. I didn’t have a chance to mount the rally wheels for the event. It was a good thing to, as the water truck was a no show. That meant no water to keep the dust down and make the course a muddy mess. My run group was in the afternoon so I got to watch the cars run in the first half of the day. After a while you could see black on the dirt from tires leaving rubber on the course. This was advantage for me with my Toyo tires. My first run out was one of the fastest on the dry grass/hard pack dirt and I placed fairly high overall for the day.
Special Thanks to Wayne Flynn at pdxsports.com for the great picture above
Around that time I was thinking, you know I could always use more power. So trying out different combos of parts like ECUs and air flow meters I finally settled on running an odd mix of parts. To get rid of the factory airflow meter I went with an HKS F-CON Pro unit that was not made for the 323GTX. This setup uses a pressure sensor connected directly to the intake manifold. It allows the removal the clunky air flow meter and allows you to run vent to atmosphere bypass valves. It also allows you to use a standard BP turbo ECU to run the other basic functions for the engine. A set of 550cc injectors are used with the system for when I decide to get something different for a turbocharger or I decide to go crazy with the power.
I was happy with the 323 until I ran across a set of Advan RC rally rims for sale in Japan. After several months waiting of them at arrive from Japan they showed up at my door. The bolt pattern was supposed to be 5×114.3 which was great. A set of Familia GTR 5 bolt hubs and brakes would do the trick for installation. It turns out the wheels I had received were 5×100 Subaru wheels. In the end this may have been for the better, Familia GTR 5 bolt knuckles and brakes are heavy. After weighing the units they are almost double the weight of the 4 bolt AWD knuckles. For a car that will see rally cross more often than high speed track events light weight rotating assemblies really make a difference. So what am I doing with a fancy set of seemingly useless Advan wheels now? I don’t let too many things get in my way that I want in regards to the 323. I have chased down a set of second hand hubs and I am going to drill them to 5×100 along with a set of rotors. I get to have my wheels and keep the lighter brakes.
This sums up my odyssey with my 323GTX. One thing that has remained constant through all of this is the BF chassis 323 shell. My car is now mid-way through the 200,000 mile mark. It has been in a few accidents, parked in a ditch by someone who didn’t know how to drive an AWD car, rally crossed, taken out on track days, drifted into curbs, and loved like a 323GTX should be.
-Derrick
Derrick’s Mazda Odyssey – How it All Began – Part 2 July 15th, 2020CorkSport
I was originally going to finish up the rest of the 323GTX adventure but driving the Mazdaspeed 3 made me change my mind. I decided to do a comparison of the Mazda turbo hatchbacks. Driving the Mazdaspeed 3 for a week the car is really making me consider getting rid of the other cars I own. As I drove my 323 GTX to work today for a change, getting into an older car really makes you appreciate the refinement Mazda has put into the new Mazdaspeed 3.
Consider the following, in late1987 when the 323 GTX was new Mazda sold the car for around 16k. Back in 1988 that was a lot of money for a sporty hatchback. The 323 GTX was the most advanced hatchback you could purchase at the time from Mazda. Jump forward 20 years and Mazda decided to go all in on the hotrod hatch market again with the Mazdaspeed 3. Granted the 2010 model is the refined version and so was the 323GTX when it was introduced to North America. Little known to some people the 323 GTX had gone through a facelift and revisions from the 1986-87 models to the version we received in 1988. 20 years is a long time in car production so now I will get to the comparison.
Note: the 323GTX used in this comparison has been modified in about every way possible. The modifications of the 323 give it a chance against the Mazdaspeed 3 in terms of power and handling despite the 20 year gap in production.
The 323GTX is very coarse in all aspects of the engine. The boost hits very fast with lots of exhaust noise and the Greddy BOV venting between shifts. The shifts come up fast too, as the gearing is very short in the transmission. The Mazdaspeed 3 in comparison the power comes up fast but it is much smoother. I can give the car some throttle and not worry about the exhaust volume or the venting BOV waking up the neighbors on the way to work at 6am. (I like my neighbors so I short shift it and keep the rpm low. If you don’t like your neighbors ask me to take the long way to work some morning through your neighborhood)
The Mazdas are pretty close in terms of acceleration. The 323GTX would take the Mazdaspeed 3 off the line due to the AWD advantage and lighter weight but once you are moving the Mazdaspeed 3 is faster with a higher top speed.
Handling is really close in terms of grip but the Mazdaspeed 3 handles with less steering effort. I took some local customers for a ride in the car and we left the off ramp on the merge lane to I205 about 10 miles an hour faster than I feel comfortable doing in my 323 with just me in the car. I had an uneven load of weight in the Mazdaspeed 3 and the car still felt more secure with the extra 175lbs on the driver’s side in the back seat.
The brakes are really no comparison. The 323GTX did not get the brakes a car like that needed. The Mazdaspeed 3 on the other hand has massive brakes.
You can tell Mazda spent some time on the interiors of both cars. The 323 GTX had some of the best production seats ever made in terms of support and comfort. The Mazdaspeed 3 seats are just as good but will be more durable with leather bolsters. The Mazdaspeed 3 really shines in terms of how quiet the interior is. You can drive the car fast and not drown out the screams of the passengers crying “I’m gonna die” in an effort to get you to slow down or not take the next corner as fast. The layout of the new dash and all of the switch gear placed better and more intuitive compared to the 20 year old 323GTX.
Style of the cars is debatable as well. The 323 GTX is more of a classic car now so you do not find people being critical of its styling these days. I am sure back in 1988 there were comments about the two wings on the back hatch and the look of the car from people. Looking at the 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 the styling is edgy and very forward thinking. It has some great styling elements which are throw backs to other Mazda vehicles of the past. The body line on the sides of the car matches the J curve of the door on the 93 Rx7 and the Mx-3. The hood scoop gives a bit of a nod back to the FC turbo Rx7. The hatch wing is a tribute to the 323 GTX. Below is a comparison between the FD Rx7 and the 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 with the J curve highlighted.
To answer the question of would I really sell off my other cars for the Mazdaspeed 3, this is the first car I have driven that I would trade in my 323 GTX on. Thankfully in this case I didn’t have to make that choice, I get to keep both.
